How do you piss off a service department? Make their life easy by providing exactly the problem and exactly the solution and ask them to fix it.
Let me preface this by saying I HATE the service center at New Country Auto, so I may have had a grudge against them before I went in.
Anyway, the whole story begins with a brand new 2003 Saab 9-3 Arc. I purchased this car in September of 03 and had it for just over a year. That car was in the shop a total of 17 times in 14 months of ownership. That is how I came to know and hate the service department. Rarely if ever would the problem I took it in for get fixed, the parts were not in stock, couldn’t find a problem, “it worked just fine for me,” “Oh, I forgot to look at that.” All kinds of excuses. So when I finally caved and traded in the Snaab (that is not a typo) for my brand new 2005 Toyota Tacoma, I vowed NEVER to go in there for anything if I could avoid it. This truck is perfect, only minor noises and such that are completely normal for new model year cars. Toyota knows about these issues and releases what are called Technical Service Bulletins (TSB’s) so dealers know what to do when someone brings in a vehicle exhibiting these problems. Thanks to the Toyota forums that I subscribe to I have access to these TSB’s and when the ones for the problems I am having were released I decided to get them fixed.
Now I know the drill at that place and it is always: take it in for a day, have them do nothing because they don’t have the parts, wait another week, bring it in again, fix the problem. The problem with this is that I work about 25 miles out of town and it is a huge hassle for me to get back and forth to work. So in order to avoid the initial unnecessary day I came in and said "here are the problems I have and I know there are TSB’s on the issue could you please fix them." Without even looking he says "I know nothing about that and we will need to schedule an appointment to check it out." I said ok nevermind and left. I decided to take all the guess work out of it and found and printed the official Toyota released TSB documents.
Yesterday I went in with these documents in hand and asked them to fix them. The service guy comes out and looks at the documents and says “yea I’ve seen these before.” I’m thinking, great this is going to work out nicely. Lets schedule an appointment so I can look at the truck. “No” I said and explained that these are this issues and I want you to order the parts so that I can bring it in on Saturday and have it fixed avoiding the delay and hassle of leaving the truck there multiple times.
“Where did you get these?”
I payed online for access to the TSB database”
He full on laughed at me! This pissed me off something fierce.
“Look, these are official TSB’s from Toyota, I guarantee if you look them up in your computer they are there. Please just fix them.”
“I’m sorry sir I cannot do that, I have to look at the truck.”
I said “OK, let’s go look at the truck and Ill show you the problems.”
“Sorry sir I can’t do that it is against policy.”
“Fine, then just trust me that these are the problems and I want them fixed.”
“I cant do that, I had a customer come in and say his CD player was broke, I ordered and installed the part only to find out that the CD he was using was scratched, I was out $400.”
“OK, number 1, that’s BS the employee is not responsible for that, number 2, I’m not that stupid, I’ve spend the 10 months I’ve owned this vehicle meticulously going though every detail narrowing down the problem, these TSB’s have very specific symptoms, the same symptoms exactly that I have. I have saved you the work of going to the computer with what I say and looking them up yourself.” (If the computer is not the first place they go to see if this is a reported problem and look for TSB’s they are too dumb to be working on my car. I didn’t say that but I wanted too.) “and 3, If I am wrong I will pay for the $5 plastic part that you ordered! Just come outside for 30 seconds and I will prove to you the problem!”
He reluctantly agrees, you can tell he is super pissed, as am I.
22 seconds later...
“yup that’s the problem, that’s all I had to do, now Ill order the parts for this one, but not the other one.”
“Why not?”
“Because I have to look at it”
The other problem is a rare loud rattle and bang from the rear end, that only occurs when the truck is full of people and very cold outside. So I could not prove it there for him. But the TSB again is very descriptive and is the problem (I’m 98% sure.) I am not as concerned about this one and am sick of dealing with these people so I leave it at that.
“Fine, I’ll be in on Saturday to get this one fixed.”
Now I know that they will either completely ignore the other problem, or will not find anything because it happens so rarely, or if by chance they actually remember an look into it, guess what? It will be exactly the problem I described, the parts will not be ordered and I will have to come in AGAIN to get them to fix the problem I told them I had in the first place!
So why is it that the customer is always dumb as a post to these people? Trust me sir, I respect that you probably know way more about working on cars that I do, but don’t assume I know nothing and treat me like dirt.
Screw you Screw Country Auto!